BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING
May 20, 2010
5:15 p.m.
Harris Hall Main Floor
APPROVED 5-3-2011
Chair Alice Kaseberg presided with Budget Committee Members: Scott Bartlett,
Bill Dwyer, Bill Fleenor, Rob Handy,
Denis Hijmans, Cindy Land, Peter Sorenson, Faye Stewart and Rose Wilde present.
County Administrator Jeff Spartz, County Counsel Liane Richardson and
Recording Secretary Melissa Zimmer were also present.
I. Public Comment
Annette Leonard, Performance Development and Diversity Coordinator for
Erin Bonner, Veneta, spoke on behalf of the Human Services Network.
She reported the current recession and unemployment have left people
unable to address their basic needs. She
noted these circumstances lead
Bob Richards, Director, Buckley Center, spoke on HSC funding.
He said they are one of the few remaining agencies that provide drug and
alcohol treatment that has a full continuum of care.
He added their women’s program is the only one in the County that
allows children in treatment with their mothers 24/7.
He said they have had 29 babies born this past fiscal year at Willamette
Family Treatment Center. He said he
has worked with the Human Services Network and they respect and work with each
other. He asked the
Board to support the HSC and the funding recommendations and all other services
in the budget this year.
Megan Schulz, CASA, Eugene, explained that the CASA proposal provides for
an opportunity to provide a public private partnership and a potential model for
future funding decisions. She said
they have pledged to match the Board’s investment dollar for dollar.
She said for CASA it means that 100 children from their waiting list will
be assigned to a CASA volunteer and will move out of the system more quickly
than children who do not have a CASA volunteer.
She said it ensures the 100 children will find a safe permanent home.
She indicated since she has been at CASA the past 10 years, four children
have died while on their waiting list. She
recalled that last year CASA lost three staff positions and they went to a four
day work week. She added in 2010
they each took a one month furlough. She
said staff made personal sacrifices in order for the children.
She indicated that they were still able to serve 291 children and 85 of
them are in safe permanent homes and their cases are closed.
She said without the Board’s investment, CASA will remain in a no
growth model. She noted the Budget
Committee had several add on proposals, but she implored the Budget Committee to
continue to make the hard decisions they have to make and lead by choosing
children and families.
Sharri da Silva, Eugene, supported the request from the HSC and the two
requests from the Department of Children and Families.
She said by passing the budget requests, they would be helping the system
of services to all the children and families in
Peggy Whalen, Executive Director, Womenspace, said she receives HSC
funding. She urged the committee to
continue to fund Human Services and HSC basic services in
Mary Salinas, Eugene, said she is a spokesperson for the homeless.
She asked the committee to provide help for an emergency shelter.
Laurie Trieger, LCHAY,
Jerry Rust, Mapleton, stated there is a severe need to manage the next
budget. He urged the Budget
Committee to adopt a $10 million cut strategy in the general fund.
He wanted to propose it in the least painful way to the organization.
He said he went through the 80’s with this and the ideas have worked.
He said there needs to be position control.
He believed when a position comes open, that every department rejustifies
the need for filing the position in the course of the next fiscal year.
He said there needs to be salary reductions; with a five percent cut
across the board wherever legally possible for all salaries above the median
level. He thought there should be a vigorous plan for easing senior staff into
early retirement. He noted the postal service did this in 2008 where anyone with
over 20 years of experience and over the age of 50 was eligible for the program
and it eliminated positions. He said
all of this is necessary and he thinks the public will appreciate that
I. Budget
Committee Discussion/Deliberation
Minutes of May 6, 2010
Kaseberg indicated that she e-mailed the changes with regard to the Minutes of
May 6, 2010.
MOTION: to approve the minutes as corrected.
Dwyer MOVED, Land SECONDED.
VOTE: Unanimous.
Shari Higgins, Budget Analyst, distributed the balance of the questions asked of
staff except for one question with the Relief Nursery and CASA.
She also distributed a Budget Committee Deliberation Information Sheet.
(Copy in file).
Hijmans noted that Annette Leonard called him out and he wanted to note the cuts
he proposed no way reflected the nature of the services or the importance to the
community. He asked Spartz if he was
aware of the $10 million deficit for next year when Spartz created the budget.
Spartz responded that he did not know of the deficit when they created the
budget. He added that it would have
been a different looking budget.
Handy asked about the Extension Service and the impact the levy not passing has
on the budget.
Christine Moody, Budget and Finance Manager, noted that under the technical
adjustments there was a placeholder for the Extension Service.
She said it was in its own fund, Fund 242.
She said they will remove the revenue and expense.
She added they continue to grant rent forgiveness.
Spartz indicated the amount is $70,000 per year for rent forgiveness.
With regard to request number 20, Kaseberg asked if they had four votes to move
it for further consideration. This
does not have four votes to move forward.
With regard to request number 21, to remove number 42, level 3 the Strategic
Plan, there were not four votes and it doesn’t move forward.
With regard to number 22, to remove county governance,
SOS 44, level 2, constituent service aids, there were not four votes
With regard to number 23, to remove public information,
SOS 47, level 5, close captioned Working for You videos, there were not
for votes to move forward.
With regard to number 24, to remove public information,
SOS 46, Working for You videos, there were four votes to remove
With regard to number 25, public information, level 3, annual report, there were
four votes to remove.
With regard to number 26, to receive consideration SOS 47, level 2, Your Lane
Newsletter, there were four votes to remove.
With regard to number 27, Moody explained there would be less general fund
transfer.
Hijmans wanted to know the cost of the
Moody indicated the lease with the
Fleenor recalled the Board of Commissioners discussed the
There were not four votes to move the
Kaseberg noted to remove SOS 41, level one, number 28, is $34,550.
She noted the first item is the level one threshold and second is level
2, and together the amount is $63,000,
She added that line 19 refers to level 20 and 28 refers to level one.
There were four votes to move this forward and they will be considered together.
With regard to number 30, to remove public access television at level 1,
Kaseberg indicated that this will not move forward, it remains in the budget.
Kaseberg indicated that number 31, is to reduce employee relations SOS 59 by
$37,848.
Numbers, 3, 33 and 34 are related to ICLEI Dues and will be discussed as Number
3. There were four votes to move
this forward.
With regard to number 35, funding for Food for
MOTION: to delete what is scheduled and
fund what is available for funding for a gross increase of $520,000.
Bartlett MOVED, Dwyer SECONDED.
Stewart asked if it deleted the reductions in the budget.
He said it would change the cost of the programs.
Moody said they would remove the adds, reverse the one thing that was deleted
and add all of the things that came as adds.
Sorenson asked if the Traffic Team was included in the budget.
Moody said it was a reduction in the proposed budget and this would add it back.
Sorenson asked what the bottom line was.
Moody noted the amount was $520,000.
Stewart said
Kaseberg recommended doing this one line at a time.
Bartlett withdrew his motion. Dwyer withdrew his second.
MOTION: to add the Water Master .
Dwyer MOVED,
Dwyer wanted the Water Master to stay.
Handy recalled the water master would take $660.
Sorenson was a no vote because this is a state funded program and they will have
a difficult time. He recalled the
Water Master has made a request in the past but they have not funded it.
He preferred they deal with things that are the County’s
responsibility.
Dwyer said they did fund this in the past.
MOTION: to end debate.
VOTE: Unanimous
MOTION: to approve funding of $2,000 for the Water Master.
VOTE: 4-6 (MOTION FAILS)
MOTION: to approve funding the Water Master at $660.
Dwyer MOVED,
VOTE; 4-6 (MOTION FAILS)
MOTION: to approve $100,000 funding for the CASA/Relief Nursery.
Sorenson MOVED, Stewart SECONDED.
Sorenson thought this should be an appropriation to the Department of Children
and Families and they could make the appropriate arrangements with the
recipients of the funding.
Dwyer thought this was good use of money and it was important that this function
be continued.
Handy shared his principles in how he made his decisions.
He indicated that he is putting an emphasis on leadership and
reorganization in place now to deal with the possible post Secure Rural Schools
cliff ahead. He said is looking at
adds that have reasonable price tags with strong rates of return for Public
Health, youth and families, sustainability, risk management and veterans.
MOTION: to close debate.
VOTE: 6-4.
VOTE: 10-0.
MOTION: to approve the ICLEI dues.
Stewart MOVED, Handy SECONDED.
Stewart indicated that he wanted the funding to come from the O & C Reserve
Fund.
MOTION: to close debate.
VOTE: 6-4.
VOTE: 9-1 (Land dissenting).
MOTION: to remove the
prevention specialist in SOS number 8, $45,000 change that was proposed in the
budget.
Hijmans MOVED, Land SECONDED.
Land commented that suicide prevention is very important but there are multiple
agencies already addressing it in the city the county and the state.
She stated that the County can’t afford to duplicate services.
Sorenson asked who provides the revenue for this.
Rob Rockstroh, Health and Human Services, explained
that Lane Care is on the mental health side.
He didn’t agree it was duplicated.
Sorenson stated that he would oppose the motion.
He said they are getting additional money from Lane Care and the need is
huge.
Dwyer didn’t support removing it out of the budget.
Wilde thought it was more effective if agencies worked together.
She was voting against the motion.
VOTE: 4-6 (MOTION FAILS)
MOTION: to add back the Traffic Team funding.
Hijmans MOVED, Stewart SECONDED.
Stewart recalled that yesterday at the Board meeting they had a discussion about
the Justice Courts. He is supportive
of this as it is critical. He added
that if they don’t find a way to work out the problems with the Justice Courts
and supplying the Traffic Team to operate the Justice Courts, that next year
they will have no choice but to remove those items.
He said it gives them a year to improve collection.
He indicated the Sheriff stated that he would do his best to treat them
more like Resident Traffic Team Deputies so an officer could be stationed up and
down Highway 58. He said it would
help support the
Hijmans supported this to be placed back into the budget.
He said
Handy asked how they keep the Traffic Team just doing that type of work.
Russ Burger, Sheriff, reported that
over the last six years their control capacity went from 23 in the main office
to 16. He said when they added the
Traffic Team last year; they ended up having to go to a lot of calls for
service. He said they discovered
there are enough tickets and citations being issued that even if they collected
half of the revenue it would be able to fund the entire
Land commented that it is critical for rural communities to have a quick
response when they call for law enforcement.
She added that the Traffic Team could prevent something from happening.
Burger stated that their mission with the Traffic Safety Team is transportation
safety. He said
they are not in the business of generating revenue, they are in the business of
keeping the public safe.
Handy said it is good they have deputies on the road.
He asked if there was a mechanism in place to measure this over the next
three months to see how they are doing with the fine collection.
Burger responded there will be a mechanism but it takes awhile to hire police
officers. He said if they collect 50
percent of the citations that were written, it would cover the Justice Courts.
He said it is the deputy’s responsibility to keep the road safe.
Kaseberg said she will vote against this as it is a big budget buster.
VOTE: 8-1 (Kaseberg dissenting, Dwyer out of room).
MOTION: to remove the Youth Advocacy Coordinator.
Land MOVED, Hijmans SECONDED.
Land commented that at this time she thought they couldn’t narrow down the
scope in Youth Services. She said
they need to not apply for niche departments.
She thought they needed to keep things as broad as possible to serve as
many people as possible.
Spartz said this position is being proposed to deal with issues they uncovered
in the Department of Youth Services. He said the data shows there is a disparity
of difference between the treatment that youth of color get and the majority
population. He said their goal is
trying to come to grips with the issues.
Fleenor said he looked at the risk benefit and they cannot afford to take a risk
during this difficult time. He will
be against removing the position.
Hijmans said if the position is needed it can be found with reprioritization so
they don’t have to create a deficit for next year.
Lisa Smith, Department of Youth Services, said the position requested is an
additional, position the Budget Committee made 12 years ago.
She noted that as youth of color increased, they have remained at one
position specifically trained to help the community and partner agencies. She
reported that 300 referrals out of 1,500 referrals over the past year have been
with youth of color. She believed
the additional position was needed.
Sorenson believed they should vote no on taking out the youth advocacy position.
He didn’t think they had enough discussion on issues of racial
disparate treatment. He stated the
department is trying hard to address the issues.
He said the expenditure of the money is for this year and it is an
important expenditure as it will reduce the risk the County is exposed to.
VOTE: 10-0 not to remove the position.
MOTION: to remove Intergovernmental Relations extra help.
Hijmans MOVED, Land SECONDED.
Land didn’t think they could afford to do it this year.
Wilde thought they should give Alex Cuyler every tool they could to secure the
most funds he can. She commented
that he has been affective.
Spartz said that Cuyler does an excellent job in
Dwyer thought this position was needed.
VOTE: 1-9 (MOTION FAILS)
MOTION: to add a resource development position in the budget for Children
and Families.
Stewart MOVED, Dwyer SECONDED
VOTE: 10-0.
MOTION: to add position for chronic disease, $80,912.
Handy MOVED, Wilde SECONDED.
Sorenson believed the return for investment is strong and the issues of chronic
disease are huge. He supported
adding the position.
Fleenor supported prevention and treatment but he didn’t feel that
Wilde said it is moving an agenda and different approach and she was in favor of
it.
Land noted that children’s obesity is a problem. She thought if kids
played more outside they would be better off.
She was fearful of a lot of adults talking about body image to children
and creating more of a problem than they realize.
VOTE: 5-5 MOTION FAILS.
MOTION: to approve Human Services, $130,000
Handy MOVED, Wilde SECONDED.
VOTE: 8-1(Hijmans dissented) (
MOTION: to approve Animal
Services Welfare Officer, #19.
Dwyer MOVED,
Dwyer stated these were critical services.
Bartlett asked how this will save animals and the lives of humans.
Karen Gaffney, Health and Human Services, explained that this position restores
an officer that was reduced from the budget two years ago.
She said the officers are critical with people who are dealing with
dangerous dogs.
Fleenor asked with
Gaffney recalled that last night the city of
Fleenor said as much as he has been a proponent for animal welfare, it was
difficult for him not to support this. He
commented that difficult decisions will be made next year and they have to
incrementally scale back. He said
they have to do something.
Spartz said if
Kaseberg asked if there was a significant increase in dealing with dangerous
animals because this position was not funded.
Richardson responded that there were no tort claims filed due to the loss of the
position.
Wilde was in favor of funding this position.
Bartlett asked if this related to a rural position.
Gaffney responded it is for the unincorporated area.
VOTE: 5-5 MOTION FAILS.
MOTION: to add a behavior training specialist.
Wilde MOVED,
Hijmans said they can’t afford a position like this for children so he
couldn’t support this position for animals.
Fleenor wanted to fund this for one more year.
He thought it was the minimum they could do for the animals.
Wilde said this would be important for animals.
She said they owe it to the animals to be good stewards.
Gaffney commented that this is where they want to be to save adoptable animals.
She noted this position is to have a full fledged program with behavior
aspects and to be of service to the community to have volunteer dog trainers.
Kaseberg stated that without knowing about the $10 million shortfall next year,
with adding back traffic deputies and adding something where they would have to
dip into the reserves, she will be a no due to the County’s financial
situation.
VOTE: 6-4 (Hijmans, Stewart, Land, Kaseberg dissenting).
MOTION: for a youth offender program services coordinator for $108,956.
Handy MOVED, Wilde SECONDED.
Wilde thought this was an important position.
Fleenor commented that the amount for the FTE was high.
Lisa Smith, Department of Youth Services, said this is looking at volunteer
coordination and emphazing over next year as they prepare, that they are in a
good position to utilize volunteers to work with high risk youth.
She added that 30 percent of DYS is through contracts.
Fleenor wanted to see this come back in a supplemental budget.
He was not comfortable paying
for that position.
VOTE: 5-5. MOTION FAILS.
Kaseberg noted that she had concerns about funds for awards and recognition.
She said she went internally and externally through the budget and $3,075
in Assessment & Taxation must be added back because that amount has already
been submitted for CAFFA funds and it can’t be removed so $59,000 has to be
adjusted
MOTION: to take out money for awards.
Fleenor MOVED, Hijmans SECONDED.
Sorenson thought it was something that should be done as it motivates people.
Dwyer thought it was about morale and recognition.
Kaseberg thought the people who deserved the greatest awards are children and
Youth Services and both had zero in their awards and recognition.
She asked how much paper $50,000 could buy to create certificates or how
much it would cost to present just a certificate to someone who has retired.
She thought it was something they needed to review.
Moody stated that only $27,000 is in the general fund for awards.
She noted the vast majority of the money is for volunteers with the
Search and Rescue Program,
VOTE: 3-7 MOTION FAILS.
MOTION: to remove number 19, community outreach, SOS 41, level 2 and
level 1.
Land MOVED, Hijmans SECONDED.
Stewart wanted to reduce the outreach in half.
He said they need community outreach.
He thought it was prudent to offset some of the adds.
MOTION: to remove Number
19, level 2
Land MOVED, Hijmans SECONDED.
Handy thought it was premature to make arbitrary cuts.
He thought they were in a non-panic situation.
He said to have this was prudent.
Land said it was something they shouldn’t spend at this time and they should
pull it.
VOTE: 4-6 MOTION FAILED.
MOTION: to remove 28,
continuing community outreach from $29,000 to $34,500
Hijmans MOVED. MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF SECOND.
MOTION to remove number 24, Working for You Video, $40,500.
Hijmans MOVED, Land SECONDED.
Fleenor believed they have reached the line for the Working for You videos.
He said they have done a sufficient number.
He said they need to see how effective they are before they spend more
money. He wanted to take a one year
reprieve to see how often they are viewed on the website and then come back and
discuss it.
MOTION: to extend the time to 9:00 p.m.
Wilde MOVED, Fleenor SECONDED.
VOTE: Unanimous.
Land also thought they needed to look to see if the people are actually viewing
these videos.
Sorenson said they are trying to tell people what services the County offers.
He said they have been asking people to support
MOTION: to combine number 24, 25 and 26.
Hijmans MOVED, Land SECONDED.
VOTE: Unanimous
MOTION to remove number 24, 25 and 26.
Hijmans MOVED, Land SECONDED.
VOTE: 4-6 MOTION FAILS.
MOTION: to remove the
internal auditor.
Hijmans MOVED, MOTION DIES FOR LACK
OF SECOND.
MOTION: to remove one constituent service aid with the East Lane County
Commissioner.
Stewart MOVED, Hijmans SECONDED.
Hijmans said that if the rest of the commissioners gave up their constituents it
would total $135,184 toward next year’s deficit.
Stewart was trying to justify the adds.
Sorenson wanted information about Executive Assistants and the number in the
County budget for this year.
Fleenor said he spent $100,000 of his own money for his assistant.
He thought this was disrespectful to Stewart’s constituents.
Bartlett wanted to make commissioners’ assistants full-time.
He said they shouldn’t minimize the importance of this position.
Kaseberg was voting against this as it sets a bad precedent.
She said that Stewart could simply not fill the position.
Dwyer said he doesn’t need an assistant.
Hijmans supports this, as it is meant to set a leadership position for next
year.
Stewart did this because he was trying to figure out how to bring adds back into
the program without having to affect cuts that will need to be made next year.
He didn’t make a motion for the internal auditor because four
commissioners who serve on the Board support the position.
He thought it was a way they could reduce the budget and offset some
cuts. He was sorry this discussion
took place, the way it was perceived but that was not his intent.
VOTE: 3-7 MOTION FAILS.
MOTION: to approve $1,000 for the
Dwyer MOVED, Land SECONDED.
VOTE: 10-0.
With regard to technical adjustments, Moody recalled the Justice Courts have
line items that need to be put back into the budget $266,650;
NACo and Council Forestland dues should have been in the budget as they
are in the current year of $9,478. She
showed the reserves being adjusted. She
added for the Extension Service she will remove the revenue and expenses.
MOTION: to move approval of the entire FY 2010/2011 Budget with all
adjustments approved by the Budget Committee.
Dwyer MOVED, Land SECONDED
VOTE: 10-0.
MOTION: to move approval of the FY 2010/2011 Permanent Tax Rate of 1.2793
per $1,000 of Assessed Value, and the Juvenile Justice Center General Obligation
Bond Tax Levy in the amount of $2,903,998.
Fleenor MOVED, Hijmans SECONDED.
VOTE: 10-0.
MOTION: to move approval to allow the use of excess transient room tax
dollars for operational purposes consistent with Lane Code 4.175(5) & (6)
and ORS 320.350 as follows: Lane
Events Center $650,000; Lane County Parks Division $348,000; City of Florence,
Florence Events Center $35,528.
Fleenor MOVED, Land SECONDED.
VOTE: 10-0.
Adjourned at 9:10 p.m.
Melissa Zimmer
Recording Secretary