BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS'
WORK SESSION
November
6, 2007
9:00
a.m.
Meeting
Room 2, Fairgrounds Convention Center
APPROVED
10/28/2009
Commissioner
Faye Stewart presided with Commissioners Bill Dwyer, Bill Fleenor, Bobby Green,
Sr., and Peter Sorenson present. County Administrator Bill Van Vactor and
Recording Secretary Melissa Zimmer were also present.
1.
DISCUSSION/Fairgrounds.
a. Introduction.
b. Comments on 2007 Fair; results from Fair exhibitors and vendors and
non-Fair exhibitors survey; observations on Golden Gardens site; comments on
fairgrounds relocations based on past and current work.
c. Results of the 2007 Fair intercept survey conducted by the University
of Oregon Community Planning Workshop.
d. Cost information on reinvesting in current site and facilities and
relocation to an alternative site.
e. Lane Events Center/Fairgrounds valuation.
f. Bonding, impact on property tax rate.
g. Golden Gardens due diligence process.
h. Identify questions for Listening Sessions.
Warren Wong, Fairgrounds, recalled on June 6 and September 12 the Board
asked staff to develop a work plan. He
said the Board wanted someone from the outside to come in and observe the 2007
County Fair and give suggestions. Wong
said he was told to look into options for either reinvesting at the current site
or moving the fairgrounds. He
indicated that they developed a four phase work plan. He said this work session is informational and it is the
first phase. He said it was an
opportunity for staff and consultants to present information for a baseline for
data to work from. He noted the
next phase is a listening tour; the third phase will be a discussion of various
policy issues and the fourth phase will be the decision making.
Wong explained that there are 55 acres at the current site; 40 of which
are developed. He noted the
youngest building is 30 years old. He
added there have been some upgrades, the most recent in 1999 for the atrium.
He said at the current site they have flat space for an exhibition
facility with animals for the youth fair in July and the County Fair in August.
He commented for two weeks a year they are fairgrounds and for the other
weeks they are a flat space facility.
Rod Markin, Markin Consulting, gave comments on the 2007 Fair, results
from the fair exhibitors and vendors and non-Fair exhibitors survey;
observations on the Golden Garden site; and comments on the fairgrounds
relocation based on past and current work.
(Copy in file).
Carrie Matsushita, Fairgrounds,
gave the results of the 2007 Fair Intercept Survey conducted by the University
of Oregon Community Planning Workshop. (Copy in file).
Bill Seider, Pivot Architects, gave cost information on reinvesting in
the current site and facilities and relocation to an alternative site. (Copy in
file).
David Suchart, Management Services, recalled that he was asked to look
at the value of the property. He
indicated that he is working with Rick Duncan.
He said if the Board wanted to market the property, they would need
cooperation between the County and the city of Eugene for zoning in the area and
what the potential for the property could be. He added the sale would be dependent upon the zoning change.
He said if they were to rezone it into a single family zone, the range
based on 55 acres is between $9.7 and $12.2 million.
He indicated that if they were to rezone it into a limited multi-zone
family zone area, the range would be $19.5 to $24.4 million.
He added that if they were to do a mixed use center that would include
offices, some small medical, limited commercial and residential, the range would
be between $32 million and $42 million. He
said it has been recommended that the best way of trying to sell the property
would be to the city of Eugene and not leaving it up to a developer.
Van Vactor reported on June 21, 2007 Lane County signed an option
agreement with the city of Eugene
on Golden Gardens, a 220 acre parcel. He
indicated that it is a two year option at no cost to Lane County.
He said that Eugene would develop a park in the range of 70 to 100 acres
and the balance would be available to Lane County if they were to exercise the
option for a fairgrounds. He added
that adjacent to the property is 80 acres owned by the Bethel School District
and they have had some interest. He
said their concern is finding replacement land for new facilities.
He noted that everyone signed the agreement on October 24,
2007. He said a twist
at the end was the owners wanted to reserve 10 acres of the 220 acres for the
long term. He indicated the amount of land available is down to 180 acres.
With regard to due diligence, Van Vactor recommended Tony Bieda,
Assistant County Administrator, Warren Wong, David Suchart, Kent Howe, Land
Management, Kari Westlund, CVALCO, Todd Winter, Parks, Charlotte Riersgard from
Extension Service, Assistant County Counsel Steve Vorhes and Carry Matsushita
from the Fairgrounds meet as a team. He
reported within the past two weeks there have been independent offers that have
been presented to Lane County in terms of alternative sites.
He noted one site was at I-5 and Coburg and the landowner next to the
airport has offered some land as a donation for the fairgrounds site.
He added that Jim Gillette offered land he has in south Eugene.
He asked what the vision the Board wants. He asked the Board to think about a project manager for this
project. He added that it is a
multi-year activity. He said if the
Board is really serious in relocating the fairgrounds and looking at other
sites, he encouraged the Board to look at sites that are adjacent to I-5 or
other cities like Coburg, Creswell and Cottage Grove.
Fleenor recommended that Mike McKenzie-Bahr, Economic Development, be
part of the due diligence team.
2.
COUNTY ADMINISTRATION
a. ORDER 07-11-7-1/In the Matter of Allocating $50,000 From the
Strategic Opportunity Reserve Fund to Be Used for the Development of Conceptual
Plans for a Potential New County Fairground Site and Authorize the County
Administrator to Sign Project Contracts.
Mike McKenzie-Bahr explained that this is the recommendation from the
Economic Development Standing Committee based on an agenda item brought by
Dwyer. He said Dwyer asked if video
lottery funds could be used for this purpose.
McKenzie-Bahr said they can, especially looking at ways for community
development investments. He
indicated the recommendation is to use $50,000 of video lottery funds for this
purpose. He added there is a total
of about $1.2 million in the current fund.
MOTION: to approve
ORDER 07-11-7-1.
Dwyer MOVED, Green SECONDED.
Fleenor wanted to change the language to say the money is used to
investigate the needs and opportunities for either keeping the fairgrounds where
they are and/or to relocate the fairgrounds and respond back to the Board in
nine months. He wanted to look at
the mission and the purpose for the
fairgrounds.
Green wanted to have some milestone language.
Stewart thought once the assessment team was formed they could come back
with recommendations about different funding levels.
Sorenson wanted to see this come back looking at the current fairgrounds
so they are not just looking at the cost of a new facility.
Dwyer thought the discussion with the community will drive this.
He said the vision in process is to be shared with the community.
He wanted a discussion with the community.
He hoped the $50,000 could do modeling to build a vision so when they
have their listening tours they can show the community what their vision is.
Fleenor asked if the maker of the motion and the second was receptive to
his amendment.
Stewart said they were.
VOTE: 5-0.
3.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Cindy Land, Eugene, commented that this was the first
time that any of the public has heard this information.
She congratulated the Fair staff for what they accomplished at the 2007
Fair. She said they produced more
results with less money and fewer people than they had in the previous seven
years. She commented that the fair
is not a festival, it is a Fair designed by Oregon State Statutes to celebrate
agriculture. She commented that
agri-tanement is just as much fun as a computer fair to kids.
Karen Ramus, Eugene, said she is a client of the
fairgrounds. She indicated that she
produces three home and garden shows representing 900 businesses. She thought
because of the free admissions the attendance was over 100,000 during these
shows. She said her vendors love
the location of the building. She
added the general interest of the people who come to the events is location.
She asked to include them as a resource.
Helen Berg, Eugene,
stated that she has been involved with the Home and Garden Show since
1980. She commented that her
exhibitors love the location and the public loves the location. She added that not everything is perfect, but they are
willing to live with it. Her
concern is by moving the fairgrounds they would lose attendance at consumer
shows.
Bob Still, Creswell, stated that agriculture needs to
be taken care of and there needs to be a place for 4H.
Eric Myers, Eugene, said he grew up in the Friendly
neighborhood. He said he is on the
Board of Directors of Saturday Market. He
said they need to start looking at alternative ways to look at the flat space.
He thought by moving the fair it would increase the size of the
ecological footprint. He doesn’t
agree with moving the fairgrounds. He
said they need to return to an agricultural based system.
He recommended collaborating with different entities.
Ross Penhallegon,
Eugene, said there are limitations with the current fairgrounds. He thought they could build a place to become a regional
center. He thought about a regional
farmers market. He thought it was
an opportunity to dream. He said
they could have a place like Pike’s Market in Lane County. He said they could have animals, agriculture and crafts.
C.L. John, said the problem is that the quality of the
fairgrounds is going down. He
commented that the dollar is controlling everything instead of the community.
He said they need to take into the consideration the people in Lane
County and the kids that come through the fairgrounds.
He commented that lives are changed by animals.
Suzanne Jackson,
Eugene, said she is an owner of Piccadilly Flea Market.
She said they are at the fairgrounds about 21 times per year and have a
good business that has been established. She
said they don’t want to move. She
indicated the expo buildings are heated and she thought with a little bit of
extra money they could be brought up looking better.
She was afraid their business would be impacted if the Board moved the
fairgrounds.
Peggy Ward, Eugene, stated she is the other owner of the
Piccadilly Flea Market. She said
her husband is a general contractor and is aware of the cost to build a new
building versus the cost to remodel a building. She stated that they could not afford to keep the business if
it is moved out of town.
Zachary Vishinoff,
Eugene, recommended a citizen contest for drawings for the fairgrounds to see
what they can get. He thought it
could be a good prototype of everyone’s idea.
He said then the Board could come back with recommendations.
Stewart reiterated that this was a learning session
from the Board. He didn’t hear a
clear direction. He commented that this process would take many years if it is
to move forward. He said they need
to address expenses.
There being no further business, Commissioner Stewart
adjourned the meeting at 12:11 p.m.
Melissa Zimmer
Recording Secretary