BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS'
RETREAT
February 20, 2007
9:00 a.m.
Wayne Morse Ranch
Park, 595 Crest Drive, Eugene
APPROVED 4/4/07
Present: Commissioners Bill Dwyer, Bill Fleenor, Bobby Green, Sr., Peter Sorenson, Faye Stewart. Also present, Bill Van Vactor, County Administrator; Jennifer Inman, Management Analyst; Melissa Zimmer, Recording Secretary; Joe Hertzberg, Facilitator.
New Board Start Up
Hertzberg explained that he spoke with each of the commissioners. He said each one mentioned that they wanted
to find real direction on where they are going and what they will be doing in
the next year. He also heard variations on what they could do to be more
effective in the Board’s governance role.
He noted there were only four topics that came up from the
conversations. He said the topics
included the role of the board, organizational questions, accountability, clear
direction expectations, and committee structure. He said they also discussed the challenge that the public doesn’t
understand how government works and how it is financed. He didn’t hear the Board say that the people
were stupid and ignorant. He heard that
citizens don’t understand and the Board needs to get the information out. He noted customer service was a topic that
came up. He added challenges include
animal welfare and the fair board.
Fleenor thought there was no satisfaction from the customers of Lane
County. He said from his perspective,
people are not happy and do not trust government. He hoped they could come together to see what the purpose of Lane
County is.
Dwyer stated Fleenor was naive.
He pointed out that the charter dictates what they do: they are a general-purpose government. He said they don’t have the ability to
invent something. He commented that
taxes make for a civilized society. He
said they have had customer surveys that showed services were rated okay. He thought Fleenor needed to change his way
of thinking.
Fleenor declared that the overall governance model was wrong. He said they are letting staff tell them how
to conduct business and go along with their recommendations instead of
developing policies in advance and having staff work within those
policies. He declared staff is working
for the Board--they are not working for staff.
He said there is complacency in they are not doing their job as policy
makers; they are being driven by staff to fill committees and other
things. He commented they were lacking
leadership as a Board.
Green stated that Fleenor hadn’t been in Lane County’s environment long
enough. He indicated they have policies
in place but most of the time people need direction from the Board. He commented that there is a political direction
that is different. He wasn’t sure how
Fleenor was receiving his information.
He said patience is needed because change at the County is slow.
Stewart recalled he came to the Board of Commissioners with the same
thoughts as Fleenor because he had no previous political experience. He thought when he came to Lane County that
the Board needed to set goals. He said
on this first year on the Board, the Board agreed to do goal setting and they
came up with three goals that helped with the structural deficit. He commented that he has seen things in the
organization that are changing and hoped it was what Fleenor was envisioning.
He believed in customer service and treating people fairly. He commented that they could do incredible
things if they could just trust each other and agree on the direction they are
going.
Fleenor admitted that he doesn’t know everything about the County. He said he has resources he hoped the Board
would see as an advantage, not a disadvantage.
He asked what the County was trying to do. He said they should break it down to an individual department
instead of one huge organization.
Dwyer said it was dependent upon how they are funded and whether or not
they are required to provide the service by law. He stated by law they have to be balanced.
Stewart said they have goals they need to work for. He wanted to know what the Board wanted to
do to move forward.
Dwyer said his primary goal is a stable source of funding for the
organization. He added they need to
look at a long-term fix.
Green thought Stewart was doing a good job as Chair. He wanted to change
the environment. He said morale for
employees is bad. He thought as leaders
of the organization that they needed to change. He didn’t want to have a “pity party,” but said that is taking
place. He said they need to stop
reliance on the state and federal governments.
He commented that if they really want to make change, they need to have
a different attitude and be more assertive.
He said they need to be more positive and talk about the things they can
do.
Fleenor wanted Stewart as Chair, when he speaks, to be speaking on
behalf of the Board, not on behalf of Faye Stewart. He commented that was part of the governance process he would
like to see them move toward.
Financial Stability &
Independence
Sorenson said they could have a stable local government or a
partnership with state government in a greater degree than it currently
exists. He commented that they could
raise their own taxes.
Fleenor stated the taxpayers of Lane County do not think the Board is
working with efficiencies and effectiveness.
He was feeling the same thing.
He said they have to live within their means and learn how to allocate
resources to provide the services that taxpayers require. He said instead of asking for more money,
they should do what the taxpayers are asking of them. He said he would rather have a full service government.
Dwyer commented that that was a view that some people held because they
see government workers as having benefits, when they can no longer afford
health care or retirement. He believes people
are entitled to health care, to make a good wage and are entitled to a good
retirement. He said they should lead by
example.
Green stated that Lane County is living within its means. He said they should show the taxpayers how
they are doing more with less.
Dwyer stated they have to balance the budget and they are subject to
union contracts. He commented that they
have jobs that they can’t fill because people make more in the private sector.
Fleenor agreed people deserve a family wage job. He recalled there have been 12 previous
attempts to increase the revenue and each time they had stated there would be
dire consequences if the public didn’t give them the money. He said they had lost credibility with the
taxpayers. He commented that there are
no dire consequences that taxpayers will recognize. He asked when they were going to get the message that this does
not sell to the public.
Sorenson said cities as becoming popular government entities. He said the voters in Eugene have given more
authority to the city to raise their taxes and provide more services. He commented that government is becoming
less relevant to people’s daily lives.
He is concerned about what happened in Portland, where they created
Metro to take away county government responsibilities. He said they were at risk of that happening
here. He stated that the middle class
has had increases in their taxes. He commented that within the five districts
the commissioners represent there are different ideas of what the government should
be doing.
Stewart said his belief is that Lane County has to find stable funding
and needs to be independent and not subject to the whims of the federal
government.
Sorenson said they need an alternative revenue source that is not a
property tax that would provide stability.
He said what they saw in the analysis of the current revenue is that
grants are about to eclipse property tax.
He said the organization had known about the funding from the federal
and state government and the increasing gap of the property tax and the cost of
the services. He commented that the
problem is bigger than what currently exists.
Hertzberg asked the Board what would get them united on a unanimous
vote.
Dwyer stated they have a structural problem in Lane County and it is
precipitated by the way they receive funding.
He said they are subject to how the state is doing. He commented that they have no stability and
they have responsibilities that go beyond public safety. He said they are in this problem because
they used to have a serial levy for public safety. He said that Ballot Measures 5, 47 and 50 rolled the levy into
their tax base and they never increased their tax base when they had the
ability. He recalled when they built
the Juvenile Justice Center; there wasn’t an operating levy that would be part
of it. He wants to solve the
structural problem and not just include public safety. He wanted to have a two percent limit on the
amount of taxes and levy up to that amount and ask the people to cap the
rate. He said if they get money from
the federal governments and other grants, they lower the ability to tax the
people. He stated that would give them
stability and they won’t have to rely on handouts. He said they would include LCARA, Veteran’s Service and the
Extension Service.
Sorenson thought they should work on a revenue source that would make
Lane County less vulnerable to federal and state decision-making. He thought that would be positive. He said they need to be more comprehensive
on who they serve to gain the public acceptance. He thought grants and other money raising activities are
important ways to give them stability and independence.
Fleenor wasn’t inclined to have a five to zero vote. He commented there was no right
decision. He said they are showing to
the public that it is a complex issue.
He thought if they voted five to zero the voters would wonder what is
going on. He thought there should be
opposition and differences of opinion in solving this matter. He commented it would be hard to convince
the public that this was a sincere decision.
Sorenson suggested finding another county that was vulnerable to
federal and state activity and to the attitudes of their own voters, but have
managed to increase their stability. He
commented that Multnomah County was more stable than Lane County. He thought they should look at other
communities more comparably sized. He
didn’t know if Lane County was in a unique situation. He thought they needed to go beyond their own experience before
they can rule out that option.
Dwyer said when they do that exercise, they need to look at what
services counties are supposed to provide by law and if there is a funding
source that comes with that mandate. He
stated they have to collect all the taxes for all the districts and distribute
the monies.
Green commented it is an ongoing goal to work towards financial
stability. He wanted to work toward
independence for Lane County.
Stewart thought it might not be possible to have a five to zero
vote. He was concerned on what that
might present to the people. He
stated he has been working on the solution for the past two years. He said it wasn’t acceptable to read about
crime in his community. He doesn’t want
a high rate of crime. He didn’t want to
be faced with a closed juvenile facility when they have some of the best
programs recognized nationwide, because they can’t provide funding. He was willing to step up and make the tough
decisions. He said they want a
community that is good to live in and safe.
He said if they want good customer service then they need to have good
employees who feel good about their jobs.
He commented that until they find some other source of income, they will
continue to go down this cliff. He
doesn’t want to keep cutting money out of their budget. He wanted to see it stable. He commented the only way they have been
able to survive is because of technology.
Fleenor said his community has had a change in demographics which
occurred in the past ten years. He
noted that they have a large number of retirees on fixed incomes coming from
California and the County has to adapt.
He said they don’t have a timber industry but a retirement
community. He said those people expect
him to represent their interests. He
said a vote of five to zero is a goal, but not a requirement. He wants to be a team player, but said he
has to be realistic and representative of the people he represents. He indicated that he had been given clear
messages from Santa Clara, Veneta and the coast not to enact the income tax
measure. He asked if the purpose of
Lane County was to generate revenue or provide service. He wanted to define the service first and
then determine what it is going to cost and generate the revenue. He said they have to live within the revenue
stream. He commented that auto
insurance rates are the lowest in the country, so auto theft is not driving up
insurance rates.
Hertzberg commented that everyone agreed a goal was long-term stability
and independence facing the revenue stream on a variety of sources and looking
at sources that make sense. He asked
if they have to reduce expenditures and if it was large enough to reconfigure
Lane County government, if every program area was important and valuable. He also asked if they would seek to continue
to have a broad array of services or if they will focus more on certain ones.
Green responded that the Board was asked if they wanted to be a single
purpose government but declined. He
stated as long as they are a general purpose government, they will be required
to provide an array of services. He
commented the prices of homes in California far exceeds the prices in Lane
County and people bought their homes here with the surplus money. He said they need a fairness in tax. He thought the people will pay their fare
share of taxes but they want to see where their money goes.
Stewart believed that all services are important and that was the way
they were going. He said they will have
to face cuts of those services. He
thought if they gave Assessment and Taxation back to the state, and the state
sends a bill to Lane County to collect the tax, they would have to pay more. He doesn’t want to make those types of cuts
if they don’t have to. He commented
that everything they do is important; otherwise they wouldn’t be doing it.
Sorenson commented that when they are in a crisis. fear was driving the
decision. 0He said the public has a
problem with government for the willingness to vote for a ballot measure. He said they tried special things to get the
public’s interest.
Fleenor indicated that not every program is important. He said they keep diluting services and they
are contradicting themselves. He said
if they are not going to cut programs, then they need to take it out of the
Strategic Plan. He thought everyone
deserved to be represented.
Effective Governance
Measuring Effectiveness
Fleenor stated he came from the Carver system, a governance process that
he believes in. He said if the Carver
system is going to work, it has to take over completely, with no
transition. He said they have to do the
entire method. He said there should be
a bright line between the Board and the department heads. He wanted a two-day work session that
identifies what the Carver method does.
He said if they want to move forward they would hire a governance
facilitator.
Dwyer stated he wasn’t interested in visiting the Carver model of
government.
Fleenor said they would have to divide Lane County up into 15
departments and each department would have a Carver governance model. He said
he wanted to get to customer satisfaction.
Hertzberg asked if the system was so broken that the Carver governance
model was the only solution to the problem. He asked if there were ways they
could significantly improve and if so what the alternatives for improvement
were. He commented that the Carver
model is a highly structured way to address it.
Dwyer commented that governance starts with the Board. He said they could have any model they
wanted.
Responsiveness of Committees
Fleenor explained that the Carver method doesn’t support committees, as
it represents a failure of governance.
He said Carver supports a task force or ad hoc committee with a defined
mission and time period. He asked how
often the committees actually generated a work product that ends up in a policy
decision. He questioned how effective
all of the committees are. He asked if
they were getting their money’s worth.
Sorenson thought they were expending too much money on advisory
committees. He thought giving them a
specific topic was a better use of involvement and people’s time. He didn’t think advisory committees got
things done.
Stewart said he believes in committees, as they are productive.
Dwyer commented that they have committees that function perfectly as
they provide service to Lane County because they develop polices that affect
citizens. He said it gives the citizens
a feeling that their views are being heard.
He noted the Roads Advisory Committee was an important committee. He noted that some committees are statutory.
Green thought committees had value.
Dwyer thought in lieu of the Board’s presence (if they are not
statutory or intergovernmental) they could assign someone and attend in their
stead.
Hertzberg asked if they wanted to come up with something
systematically.
Fleenor asked if they were getting sufficient return for their
investment of the taxpayer’s money to warrant the continuation of the
committee. He asked what the purpose
was and if they had a work product. He commented that some committees go on
forever.
Dwyer said they should ask the committees about their goals.
Sorenson said they have a structural problem with committees. He said they are supposed to represent
people and some people are poor and won’t be able to come to a committee
meeting. He said they don’t have an
affirmative action program involving people on a committee. He suggested having a seven-member committee,
where the commissioners would assign one person each. He didn’t know when the meetings were set and the rationale to
setting the meetings.
Stewart said they should have a complete list of the committees and
discuss each specific committee, their expectations of the committees and the
Board’s expectations. He said they need
to determine whether the committees are still appropriate and if they want to
have specific targets for them to meet.
Green saw that as a second step.
He thought after they engaged the chairs of the committees they could
discuss the work product, resources, and if the committee should go away or be
retained.
Sorenson indicated they might be able to improve governance and the
relationship between the Board and the policies and staff performance by
driving the performance into a routine or a report to the Board on how they are
doing. He thought instead of a
semi-annual report of performance measures, they should think about breaking it
down as a routine item on the agenda.
He said they need to be monitoring performance measures.
Hertzberg recalled the Board wants to evaluate the future of each
committee, involving its purpose, what are its expectations for reporting, its
costs and the connection with the Board.
Dwyer noted that most committees already have bylaws and a purpose.
With regard to governance, Hertzberg stated the following: to have a clear purpose, goals, strategic
plan, clear and articulated policies, clear direction from board to staff,
clear performance measurements and reporting, clear statement of the
relationship between the Board and the administrator and expectations of the
commissioners themselves and their responsiveness.
Fleenor explained what is good about a performance governance process
is that they give direction to management and they could do many things. He said with the model, they could make
decisions without the fear of having to second guess. He wanted to bring in the Carver form of governance.
Dwyer indicated he was not opposed to finding a better way of doing
things. He didn’t support a work
session on the Carver method.
Green did not support the Carver method. He believed they could get
reasonable people to make decisions. He
was not in favor of bringing the Carver group in. He said he went online and found they were consultants. He didn’t think this was the best fit for
Lane County as they are decentralized.
He said they could make improvements but they have to agree without what
Carver was telling them. He said they
need to work towards improving.
Sorenson commented with governance, they could have more data and
evaluation. He said they can’t do it
unless they get it on a routine basis.
Fleenor explained no one would force them to do anything. He said it was just for information purposes. He said they would have to have an outside
facilitator show them the options, but it wouldn’t be for free. He asked the board how they go the next
step.
Dwyer said he wants efficiency.
Green commented that if it is efficiency, they could do it themselves
by giving clear direction. He said they
need to be clearer in what they expect.
Dwyer indicated there is a cost associated with giving directions and
they have to recognize that and step up.
Animal Welfare
Green asked what the expectation would be with the work session.
Dwyer said someone would write a resolution. His expectation was they will set goals and direction and they
might adopt a resolution in some point in time that would be less onerous. He added there would be some direction with
the resolution so it would have meaning.
Sorenson suggested hearing from people who are outside of the
organization who have expertise. He
said they won’t take action. He
commented the dilemma of the policy choices will come out as a result of this
meeting.
Dwyer wanted to find out the impediment of putting this in place and
the cost associated with it.
Fleenor said they have a group of people who are pro and con. He hoped the truth would come out that they
are doing the best they can with the resources.
Fair Board
Dwyer explained there is no requirement for a Fair Board. He thought they got $40,000 a year because
they had a fair board, but he found out they got the money because they have a
fair. He said they should have a fair
board.
Green wasn’t convinced that the current structure was broken and needed
to be replaced. He wanted to make sure
it continues.
Fleenor preferred “direct democracy” and indicated that the fair and
the fairgrounds rise to the level where they need to have a definitive impact
on its future. He was in favor of the
Board of Commissioners taking the place of the fair board for an indefinite
period to provide clear direction to Warren Wong. He wanted to make sure the fairgrounds survive.
Dwyer stated that commissioners cannot be the fair board. He said if they want the fair board to take
direct action, then they would have Warren Wong report to them or Van
Vactor. He added that if they do have a
commissioner on the fair board, the law allows a maximum of one commissioner.
Sorenson saw the fair board size and function as being representative
of other boards. He said they have buy
in from special interest groups. He
said because of the mass resignation from the fair board, he suggested
continuing having the fair board for a period of time and taking the time to
fill the positions. He didn’t like the
idea of a three-member fair board. He
thought they should try this out for six months.
Dwyer was in agreement.
Green didn’t want to make a decision until they filled the vacancies
after they resolve the income tax. He
commented that this was a negative in the community.
Hertzberg reiterated there was agreement in the short run, not to
reappoint members to the fair board and not to change anything until they
resolve the funding for the Board of Commissioners.
Green wanted to fix the public perception for the long term.
Stewart said there are issues to discuss around the fairgrounds and how
they are going to deal with them.
Sorenson wanted Warren Wong to come to the Board to answer questions
they have about handling the checks and what he normally would bring to the
Fair Board. He wanted to ask him what
happened to the YMCA proposal. He
thought these should be direction to schedule Wong to report to the Board.
The Planning Commission
Stewart explained they have vacancies on the Planning Commission. He said they need direction.
Dwyer said they currently have three people who are capable, but he
wanted to appoint those who have applied.
Sorenson asked if they would change the method by which they pick
people. He suggested the five
commissioners each recommend a person.
He was concerned with filling in the gaps with experience and
diversity. He thought there should be
seven people on the boards and commissions.
He suggested that the Planning Commission be the first opportunity to
implement that suggestion. He thought
there should be five appointed from the Board and two at large.
Hertzberg asked if this was a model that other organizations were going
towards.
Dwyer thought it was the model that would take the politics out of the
discussions.
Van Vactor indicated that with the Planning Commission there are
statutory requirements in terms of occupation, conflict of interest, size and
geographic distribution.
Green stated he didn’t have a problem with the process for Parks, the
Roads Advisory Committee and Budget. He
was against having a committee on committees to fill committee positions.
Hertzberg stated the committees would include one member appointed by
each commissioner plus two appointed by the other five in the group.
Stewart was not opposed to the committee making recommendations for the
two at large positions. He said they
have a nine member Planning Commission and they have three seats open. He asked if they want to get a report from
Howe to meet the requirements.
Hertzberg said for the future of the Planning Commission they have a
process they want to follow.
Van Vactor asked if they still wanted to do a countywide recruitment
and a public announcement. He asked if
the Board still wanted that managed through the Board of Commissioners office.
There was agreement by the Board to do that.
Van Vactor noted they needed to look at the Diversity Action Plan as it
discusses diversity on the advisory committees.
Hertzberg recalled the goal of the Planning Commission is to have five
of the seven members of the Planning Commission each designate one member. He said they would look at the current
members (to the extent possible) to be allocated by district and if any were
not in the district, the next time there is a vacancy, that commissioner would
get the designation.
Sorenson disagreed. He
indicated the concept was to be applied to all of the boards and commissioners
so they could take the policy and put it into effect over time. He thought they could easily implement this
for the Planning Commission.
Public
Information/Dialogue/Customer Service
Hertzberg heard from the Board that people don’t understand what the
County does and how the County is funded and that don’t identify with County
government. He added no commissioner
stated that people are stupid. He heard
the Board needs to give the information out the public With regard to customer service, he asked
how they make sure the public service they provide is as good as it can be.
Dwyer said they need to have someone compile the information they want
to get out. He said they need to have
the knowledge on how to gather and disseminate the information in the best and
most logical fashion. He said that
every city has a public relations person.
Sorenson commented the function changes over time based on
technology. He said they have to keep
up the methods by which people are receiving information. He wanted to have the information available
to the public as easily as possible. He
wanted an e-mail sign up where people could automatically get the
information. He thought they should
have structured opportunity for dialogue where they go and listen to
people.
Fleenor said he was having good success with his “coffee and
conversations.” He said he engages the
participants. He wanted to see more use
of the website. He thought each
commissioner should have their own website with their calendars and a monthly
topic from the County so they could communicate more effectively with their
districts. He thought there could be a
webcast chat live with call ins and teleconference call ins so people have more
access. He commented that they were
missing the opportunity to use technology more efficiently.
Dwyer said it was important to have a governmental relations person as
well as a public relations person put a spin on whatever they do in a positive
way. He noted there is a cost
associated with it and they have to be willing to budget it. He commented that ignorance is more
expensive than education.
Green supported community outreach and going into the community for
their input. He commented that when
they do the radio show “Ask the County, it is live and they are able to get
instant feedback. He suggested possibly
having an hour-long meeting where they public could call them and ask
questions.
Stewart agreed with all the ideas.
He wanted to see them do town hall forums. He thought they could go once a month or quarterly. He was in favor of giving information
through e-mail. He said instead of
relying on the newspaper to either print their press releases or have a
reporter report on the meeting, they should buy a spot in the newspaper once a
week and report what they did. He said
they should tell their story in their own words and be proactive. He thought the County could print a
bi-monthly magazine to report what has been taking place and send it out to the
residents.
Dwyer recommended having a blog.
Green said there was a cost associated with a magazine and it is not an
essential County service. He commented
that constituents think the County is wasting money doing that.
Fleenor thought every piece of mail that comes from Lane County should
have a newsletter inserted in it.
Sorenson thought they could use the Internet to see if people are
involved by getting them signed up. He
said they would be saving money and time by not sending information to people
who don’t want it.
Fleenor suggested getting e-mail addresses and signing up people and
then poll them on their interests.
Customer Service and Satisfaction and Identification with Lane County.
Dwyer commented that the customer’s satisfaction is not a prerequisite
of getting their service.
Sorenson said they could measure customer service by going out and
asking people. He said they could
improve on things that are less popular.
He commented that customer service does not work well unless there is
buy in at all levels. He said they have
to support people who provide superior customer service. He said they need to make customer service a
part of the job so people see it as an important part of their job. He said they should ask managers how they
measure customer service and what people are upset about and how to make them
happy.
Green hoped that customer service started within Lane County
internally. He said that is where it
needs to start. He commented if they have
problems internally then they would have problems externally.
Stewart said customer reports from staff said that Land Management is
great, but he gets telephone calls about no one returning telephone calls from
Land Management. He thought they should
interview the customers to make sure they got satisfaction. He didn’t think the representation of
satisfaction was taking place. He
believed they are there to serve the citizens and to do whatever they can to
have a positive experience. He wanted
to define another check point to make sure customer satisfaction is being
registered appropriately.
Fleenor commented that customer service is the process by which they
develop customer satisfaction. He said
the goal is customer satisfaction. He
asked what customer satisfaction is. He
said they have to have a goal or a benchmark.
He said they need to have a benchmark poll.
Sorenson said they should ask the citizens how Lane County as an
organization could improve and provide greater satisfaction. He thought they should also ask the advisory
committees the same questions.
Green commented that the customer is not always right. He said sometimes they agree with the
customer just to keep good will going.
Goal Setting
Green indicated they have three existing goals: eliminate the structural deficit, replace
the public health building and fund and enhance the public safety system for
the long term.
Hertzberg recalled the four strategic objectives are: enhance revenues and contain costs, engage and
inform citizens about Lane County government replace the public health
building, measure performance and use the results and decision making. He asked about the goals they wanted to go
forward and what they want to accomplish.
Green stated that financial stability is still the goal and should be
the immediate objective.
Dwyer said they have to sever all ties from the state and federal
government. He wants to fix the
structural aspect to what it is that is causing them to be in the position that
they are currently in. He said they
need to have enough of a revenue stream to account for any loss of federal or
state funds, should they occur and to only levy the appropriate amount. He said he wants to stabilize the problem
now.
Hertzberg noted the goals for the next year from now: stabilize
services without revenue or expenditure components, independence and balancing
revenues and expenditures.
Sorenson thought getting to financial stability in one year would not
be something they could do. He wanted to
try to achieve goals.
Green thought they could develop service improvements. He wanted to create a short list.
Hertzberg stated that Lane County is financially stable and independent
for revenues and expenditures in a long-term balance as a first goal.
Van Vactor stated that on behalf of the Management Team, if they don’t
get Secure Rural Schools and they don’t have a tax enacted, they will have to
have a balanced budget in June. He said
they will have met their goal, but they won’t be the terms for the organization
to strive for.
Fleenor said they have to establish public trust. He said the public doesn’t trust Lane
County. He said the only way of solving
that problem is proving they are trustworthy.
Green said they will secure an alternative revenue source. He said that sends the message they will do
everything possible to secure it.
Fleenor said the goal is to stabilize services. He said if they could do it by enhancing
revenue, it could be one technique. He
said if all they are going to do is go out and find more money, he didn’t think
that was the end goal. He commented
that if they find the money and they don’t spend it correctly it will not
stabilize services.
Green stated the current revenue source is inadequate. He asked how they could provide the current
level of services given the growth population with 25-year-old money.
Sorenson commented that a goal where they are going to be financially
stable and the revenues and expenditures will be balanced is not
inspirational. He said that is not
saying that Lane County citizens will be served by exceptional government they
would want to support. He said they
have a unique opportunity to talk about the goal. He thought that the Lane County Fair was popular.
Green asked if they should sell the fairgrounds so they get a better
fair and have animals year round as a goal.
He said they could ask the public if they were interested in that
suggestion.
Sorenson thought they could take Riverstone Clinic and expand it. He thought they could go into primary health
care as a revenue generating activity.
Dwyer said they were already anemic and that is why they went to the
voters. He said they were asking for
money because services were growing at seven percent and the income is at three
percent and they can’t continue to operate.
He asked if the current service level is acceptable. He commented that in the short term it is
not satisfactory and in the longer term he wants to do something about the
structural defect. He didn’t think the
current services levels are adequate.
He said they need more money to fund current service levels. He asked
where the money would be coming from.
Sorenson said the tax from public safety would address the public
safety component, but would not address the other issues.
Hertzberg reiterated that the structural deficit needs to be
eliminated, provide adequate service level, provide exceptional customer
service, listen to people, and earn trust.
Fleenor asked about a legislative solution.
Sorenson said so much of county government has been downsized. He said even if they cut expenses in the
budget year they are in, and if they get an income tax, it is dedicated to
public safety and they will have that problem for all aspects of county government
outside of public safety.
Dwyer said they dedicated some funding to Veteran’s Services and
LCARA. He said they couldn’t provide
the current service level. He said they
still have a $3 million budget deficit, as the best-case scenario.
Green thought earned trust should be put at the top. Fleenor wanted sustainable service levels.
Hertzberg said they could get earned trust by: eliminating the structural deficit,
providing sustainable service levels, provide exceptional customer
service.
Sorenson commented that if they adopt a minimalist view of what they
are doing, they are going to achieve their goals. He said they need to have big aspirations. He added they should reinvent themselves and
have a positive outlook.
Green stated that not every agency wins in every election. He was encouraged to do something to get to
yes. He said they have to provide
leadership at the higher level so the community could watch them instead of
asserting what the problem is. He
thought with education and communication, they could do more. He said they needed to stay focused and stay
together.
Hertzberg thought being responsible was the real key. He said the minimum is to stay out of
bankruptcy and don’t violate any mandates. He said at a higher level it is to
maintain at least the service level they have now. He said higher than that is to reinvent and do something
inspiring.
Green stated they need to focus on the strengths of Lane County in
spite of hard times. He commented that
the best ambassadors for Lane County are the people who work for Lane
County. He noted that employees do a
lot of good things but they don’t talk enough about it.
Final Thoughts
Fleenor commented that the service level is a moving target. He thought they should avoid bankruptcy and
try to make the best of what they have.
He thought the Board was doing what is right faced with the drastic
measures. He thought their talking
civilly shows that they are willing to work together. He said they might not all agree and not always voting five to
zero shows strength.
Sorenson thought this was a valuable use of his time. He wanted to do it after the budget year
ends and a new year begins. He thought
they made progress on the committees and the Fair Board and Planning Commission.
He said focusing the commissioners on the policy issues was good. He suggested when they do this again, have
the Management Team for half the day, talking to the Board to explain how they
see things.
Stewart thought it helped to grow and build trust and
understanding. He agreed that as soon
as the budget period is over, they should compare what they have accomplished
between now and the next three or four months and to be more direct on their
goals.
Green supported goal setting. He said they need to find ways to work
with each other. He wanted to be sure
that whatever message is reported back that they work at it and work
together. He said they came up with areas
of agreement and it allowed them to have a conversation they couldn’t have on
camera.
Next Steps
Hertzberg thought the next steps would be a process. He said there is a similar process regarding
governance and if it fits in the Strategic Plan. He said they did brainstorming about customer satisfaction and
about building trust. He said the
follow up is for the Board to pull toward the same direction.
Adjourned at 4:32 p.m.
Melissa Zimmer
Recording Secretary